Illegal file sharing of Joomla products

Monday, 01 March 2010 18:52

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I do regular work with various other providers for Joomla services and software, and once in a while we get interesting support requests. For example, one person demanded for us to fix something they broke. The interesting part is they admitted fully to downloading the software from some file sharing site illegally and wanted support. In another case a user contacted us asking for the documentation for the software since it didn't come with their illegally downloaded copy. Sure, its kind of funny on one hand, but it shows a serious issue with the character and perceptions of many people.

I'm also pretty fed up with the constant twitter messages that I see in my searches for information related to Joomla, Drupal, or Wordpress. There are many linked to various forums or blogs that are centered around posting links to these file sharing sites. Now technically these file sites are not illegal, however, the can be used illegally, and that's what we have here.

But you can't stop it...

People have always engaged in illegal activities, and much of the time those activities piggy back off of the success of the work done by a company or individual, which is their business. The problem with the web is that it blurs the line between whats legal and illegal, and also blurs the line between what seems illegal and what is illegal.

We can see this in the history of Napster. It was a free program that anyone could use to download virtually any kind of music, so long as it was on the network somewhere. At the time, the legality surrounding Napster was rather weak, and that's why it lasted for quite a while before the official shutdown (and later relaunch as a legitimate service).

What I'd like to suggest is that experiences like these have caused the web to foster a generation of internet users accustomed to free offerings.  People almost expect to get things for free, and really they don't seem to care if getting it for free means breaking the law by stealing.

I can't stop it, but you can

Its impossible to police the entire internet, because it is so vast, and because servers can be located anywhere which often governs how much legal pressure can be applied. So the fact is, we cannot manage to actually stop people from these practices. However, what people probably often don't realize is how their actions affect others. Its the drop in a bucket syndrome.

Its easy to think, whats the big deal if I download and use this program illegally, I'm just one person and it only costs $30, not a big loss. I appeal to those of you who make this mental journey through the conscience. The other kind of downloader probably doesn't care at all, and there is nothing I can do for them. For the rest of you, would you shoplift a cd from your favorite software store? If the answer is no, then don't be a hypocrite and obtain your software legitimately.

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# 2010-03-02 12:16
Once upon a time when I did not understand the beauty of Open Source I thought anything made by a Joomla dev should be free. And so I did download Frontpage Slideshow (sorry JW) and a few other things, then after messing wih Joomla for a few months I realized what a gift it was ( and this was still 1.0, LOL), wised up and understood how wrong it was to do that. I've since bought very paid extension available from JW to atone for my sins...
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# Jeremy Wilken 2010-03-02 14:44
I used to use Napster, I'm trying to make up for it by buying music these days.

Its interesting, because I think a lot of people who become loyal customers get a 'trial copy' from somewhere. I think you've pointed out another big problem with OS and Joomla, how can you provide a trial? Not really easy, or worth it.

Thanks for your candid thoughts, I appreciate it!
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# 2010-03-09 06:17
What people don't realize is the qualitative difference between paid and free in most cases. And very few high quality products are free in the true sense of the word. Whenever they are, it should be considered a privelege and one is obliged to return back the benefits in some form of contribution.
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# 2010-03-16 10:14
I think that you're forgetting that a lot of the people who download these things for free do so because they don't have the money to be buying extensions/templates all the time. At the same time there are plenty of people who can afford to and do buy extensions. Technically the free downloads are lost sales but they may raise the profile of your extension and result in more sales at a later date.
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# Jeremy Wilken 2010-03-16 10:47
Perhaps that is the case, but does it make it right to steal? I doubt they really raise the profile of the extension though, it really just raises the chances that others will steal it.

Does it make sense to steal the work of others (even if you can't afford the $10 extension, skeptical of that) so that they aren't able to make money to spend on things?
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# 2010-03-16 13:17
I think that there is every possibility that the profile of an extension could be raised through file sharing. If someone makes a site using an illegally obtained copy of your extension and their friend asks them about it then that inquiry could result in the friend purchasing the extension. I'm not saying this will happen very often but it could.

As for copying in general and stopping it, we live in an age were it is easier to copy software than ever before and it is only going to get easier. There is no point trying to stop it nor any point in telling people not to do it.

It is also worth considering the fact that copying is a natural trait in human beings. It's how we learn as we are growing up and the internet just provides a platform where we can emphasise this instinct.
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# 2010-03-16 13:23
Perhaps if you release extensions with one off payments then you should consider subscription based services instead. This way there may be copies of your extensions floating around on file sharing websites but they probably won't be the latest, most up to date ones and this will drive some people to purchase who would have otherwise pirated the software.

I'm not saying that I agree with stealing but i don't think the whole file sharing thing does as much harm as is sometimes portrayed. On the other hand, the measures taken against file sharing are managing to threaten the openess of the internet. And this openess is exactly what has made it the greatest collaborative tool mankind has ever seen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALZZx1xmAzg
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# 2010-04-15 10:00
/shrug

If they go to the effort to steal it, they'll never pay for it...

I see it as branding :)

Imagine your stuff was so bad no-one wanted to pirate it!
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